Legislature(2023 - 2024)SENATE FINANCE 532

05/10/2023 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 41 APPROP: CAPITAL/SUPPLEMENTAL TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 39 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUND; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 95 LICENSE PLATES: SPECIALTY ORGANIZATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 140 INTERNET FOR SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 140(FIN) Out of Committee
+= SB 99 FINANCIAL LITERACY COURSE IN SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 99(EDC) Out of Committee
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 39(FIN) am(brf sup maj fld)(efd fld)                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;   capitalizing   funds;   repealing                                                                    
     appropriations;    amending   appropriations;    making                                                                    
     reappropriations;      and     making      supplemental                                                                    
     appropriations."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:37:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson MOVED to  ADOPT proposed committee substitute                                                                    
for CSHB 39(FIN), Work Draft 33-GH1347\P (Marx, 5/5/23).                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:38:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PETE  ECKLUND, STAFF,  SENATOR BERT  STEDMAN, discussed  the                                                                    
changes proposed in  the CS. He read from  a document titled                                                                    
"Changes from  HB 39 version  H (SCS2) to version  P (SCS3)"                                                                    
(copy on file):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     •  Technical correction  to the  structure of  the FY23                                                                    
     legislature budget                                                                                                         
     •  DOH cost  allocation assessment  tool -  fund as  an                                                                    
     FY24-26 multi-year,  not a temporary increment  (Inc T)                                                                    
       this is  already in the Senate  budget, just changing                                                                    
     how it is funded                                                                                                           
          o Dollar amounts are unchanged.                                                                                       
          o Medicaid Services Cost Allocation assessment                                                                        
          tool $2.04 million fed, $227 thousand UGF match                                                                       
          o   Senior   and    Disabilities   Services   Cost                                                                    
          Allocation Assessment Tool - $698 thousand fed,                                                                       
          420 thousand UGF match                                                                                                
           Update    the     estimate     in    the     FY23                                                                    
     judgments/settlements  to include  a new  $115 thousand                                                                    
     settlement (dept of law)                                                                                                   
     •  Fund  the  Alaska  Gasline  Development  Corporation                                                                    
     (AGDC) at the FY24  Unrestricted General Fund requested                                                                    
     amount as a one-time item (3,086.1)                                                                                        
     •  Add  two  fire  standards  council  positions  (Fire                                                                    
     Training  Specialist II,  Fire Training  Administrator)                                                                    
     $250 thousand UGF                                                                                                          
       head-start addition  of $5 million UGF  as a one-time                                                                    
     item  (above the  $6.85 million  UGF in  the head-start                                                                    
     base budget)                                                                                                               
     • Office  of the  Governor    Office of  Management and                                                                    
     Budget      up  to  $5   million  in  FY23   lapse  for                                                                    
     distribution  by OMB  to central  services agencies  if                                                                    
     cost    allocation   rates    fall   short    of   full                                                                    
     reimbursement.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman WITHDREW  his  objection.  There being  NO                                                                    
further  OBJECTION,  it was  so  ordered.  The CS  for  CSHB
39(FIN) was ADOPTED.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman relayed  that  the director  of LFD  would                                                                    
offer  a brief  review of  the states   fiscal position.  He                                                                    
commented that the Senate was  in discussions with the other                                                                    
body  and  there  would  likely   be  a  forthcoming  CS  or                                                                    
amendments to consider.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:41:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEXEI  PAINTER,  DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
addressed a document entitled "Document  C," (copy on file),                                                                    
and informed that  the document was updated  from a previous                                                                    
version  the committee  received. He  pointed out  the first                                                                    
line,  which  showed  the spring  revenue  forecast  with  a                                                                    
$73/bbl price  of oil. He  identified that  SCS 2 and  SCS 3                                                                    
had modified  the Alaska  Industrial Development  and Export                                                                    
Authority  (AIDEA) dividend  from  the full  amount, so  the                                                                    
$17.9  million   showed  up  as  a   revenue  reduction.  He                                                                    
continued  that  net  fund transfers  also  took  away  from                                                                    
revenue,  resulting  in  about   $6.26  billion  of  revenue                                                                    
available. He  listed that  SCS 2,  the previous  version of                                                                    
the  bill,  had agency  operations  at  about $4.48  billion                                                                    
which included  the $175 million for  K-12 education outside                                                                    
the  funding  formula.  There  were   no  changes  from  the                                                                    
previous version  of the bill  and SCS 3 in  statewide items                                                                    
or the UGF capital budget numbers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter pointed  out that  the Permanent  Fund Dividend                                                                    
(PFD) also  showed no  change from  the previous  version of                                                                    
the bill and  was $881 million or 25 percent  of the percent                                                                    
of market value  (POMV) draw. With the  items together there                                                                    
was  an estimated  $123 million  surplus.  The third  Senate                                                                    
Committee Substitute (SCS  3) added $8.3 million  UGF to the                                                                    
operating  budget.  The  items  that  Mr.  Ecklund  reviewed                                                                    
included $3.1  million to  AGDC, $5  million to  Head Start,                                                                    
and  $2500,000 to  the Fire  Standards  Council. The  fiscal                                                                    
notes  estimate had  been  revised from  $7  million in  the                                                                    
previous version up to $26.4 million.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  explained that  the reason  for the  change was                                                                    
that  the amendments  made to  the  Base Student  Allocation                                                                    
bill had  added about  $12 million,  and the  elections bill                                                                    
heard in  committee the  previous day  had a  capital fiscal                                                                    
note  of $5.7  million. Adding  the two  items together  had                                                                    
significantly  increased  the  estimate  for  fiscal  notes,                                                                    
which  was still  evolving and  did not  include all  of the                                                                    
bills in  the finance  committees but represented  a working                                                                    
estimate  for those  bills that  were  considered likely  to                                                                    
pass.  He continued  that the  $22.7 million  estimate shown                                                                    
for Conference  Committee additions represented  the outside                                                                    
high  case  if  the  higher  House  items  were  chosen  for                                                                    
everything. He  summarized that line  15 showed  a remaining                                                                    
surplus of  $65.5 million. He  thought the  previous summary                                                                    
had shown  a surplus  of $93  million, the  difference being                                                                    
the  higher  fiscal  note   estimate  and  operating  budget                                                                    
additions. He  noted that the  surplus could  potentially go                                                                    
to  an increase  in the  capital budget  in the  other body,                                                                    
supplementals for  next session,  or a  cushion in  case oil                                                                    
prices were lower than expected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:44:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked what type  of volatility in oil would                                                                    
it take to eradicate the $65.5 million surplus.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  estimated that the  amount would  signify about                                                                    
$1/bbl in oil price swing.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   asked  if   Mr.  Painter   had  absolute                                                                    
confidence  that   the  Department  of   Revenue  accurately                                                                    
predicted the oil  price within a dollar. He  thought it was                                                                    
unlikely that the price would come within a dollar.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman noted  that the  summary that  Mr. Painter                                                                    
had addressed had been circulated  amongst the House Finance                                                                    
Committee  Co-chairs, the  Speaker of  the House,  and Rules                                                                    
Committee  Chair.  There  was   a  slight  change  from  the                                                                    
previous  days   number  due to  the  adjusted  fiscal  note                                                                    
estimate.  He described  that the  document  was subject  to                                                                    
change  with alterations  with the  budget.  He thanked  Mr.                                                                    
Painter for his balanced budget presentation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 39(FIN)  was HEARD  and HELD  in committee  for further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman handed the gavel to Co-Chair Olson.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:46:27 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:48:43 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Olson relayed  that the  committee would  consider                                                                    
three bills: SB 95, SB 140, and SB 99.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB95B Summary of Changes.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB95B Sectional.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB95B Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 95
SB 41 SCS3 StatewideTotals 5-3 document B.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 41
SB 41 SCS2 to SCS3 ProjectCompareByAgency 5-9 document A.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 41
SB 41 work draft version Y.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 41
HB 39 SCS3 051023 Agency Summary - All Funds document B.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
HB 39
HB 39 changes from CS 2 (H) to CS 3 (version P).pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
HB 39
HB 39 SCS3 051023 Agency Summary - UGF docuemnt A.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
HB 39
HB 39 work draft version P.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
HB 39
SB 140 work draft version S.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 140
SB 140 Letters of Support.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 140
SB 140 Eligible School Sites SB 140 5.8.2023.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 140
SB 140 Public Testimony 051023.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
SB 140
HB 39 - SB 41 Fiscal Picture SCS3 5-10-23 CORRECTED v.2.pdf SFIN 5/10/2023 9:00:00 AM
HB 39
SB 41